Rep. Paul Ryan on Recalls: 'Courage is on the Ballot'

Congressman Paul Ryan was in Mount Pleasant Friday to talk about his ideas for a federal budget, and Patch got a little bit of time with him to talk about Wisconsin recall elections.

When it comes the Wisconsin recall elections, U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan says it's really all about courage.

"I think courage is on the ballot," he said in an interview with Patch Friday. "What I mean by that is Governor (Scott) Walker went after some of the root causes of the structural problems in the state budget."

People might not have liked the way Walker went about budget reform, Ryan added, but going after some of the causes of the state's deficit took a lot of guts.

"The majority of local budgets are labor," the Republican congressman said. "So I think the message beyond Wisconsin is, don't try and tackle these problems. If you do, as a state legislator or a governor, this is what can happen to you."

Ryan said the goal of recall organizers is to intimidate other reformers around the country to not bother dealing with public employee pensions and benefits as they relate to their private sector counterparts.

As for how close the June 5 election will be, Ryan agrees with that say it will be a tight race. However, he firmly believes Walker will come out the winner.

"These reforms are starting to work, and people are seeing services weren't deeply cut and their property taxes went down for the first time in 12 years," said Ryan, who was in Mount Pleasant for a listening session with residents. "I talked to a school superintendent who saved over $1 million in one year because they can put out for bid for their health insurance."

School districts are hiring more teachers and local governments are lowering taxes without deep cuts to services. As time has gone on, taxpayers are seeing the savings, he added.

"The whole purpose of the recall is more popular for Walker and (opponents) are not campaigning against him on the reforms and so because of that, it's a more weaker opposition and he'll probably win, but it will be close," Ryan concluded.

GearHead May 05, 2012 at 01:44 PM
Bren, the attendees were basically pushing Keynsian economic dogma which arguably had some redeeming quality when we had little debt, but falls on its own face now that we are choking on debt. Borrowing to spend in the hopes the economy will rev back up so we can continue to pay unsustainable benefits to public workers, is my best guess at their angle. Ryan, naturally, disagreed with the attendee's premise.
Alfred May 05, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Schmitz is a grifter who takes advantage of the fine folks in Shorewood by bilking the village out of 25,000 for a failed bookstore, then bilks little old ladies out of 'co-op' fees...this guy is something else.
R Denis May 05, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Your comment is incredibly stupid, what do have against reading books ?
Bob McBride May 05, 2012 at 02:17 PM
"Eddie Munster". That's great, Keith. If you wonder why you can't seem to get beyond following the parade with a broom and shovel, you need look no further than this kind of material.
Alfred May 05, 2012 at 02:29 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/business/88705292.html I stand corrected, it was a $35,000 loan
Alfred May 05, 2012 at 02:30 PM
As the saga unfolded: Open Book aggressively promoted itself as a coop, took $$ from unwitting "coop" members, was nailed for not being a coop, became a legal coop, and ended with the discovery that it's financially difficult to operate a coop, much less an independent bookstore. Sheesh! Who didn't see that coming?On the other hand, even though there are several bookstores in the North Shore/East Side areas, People's Books Cooperative is hangin' in there, going on it's 3rd year as a coop, after 30+ years as an independent bookstore.Go figure. http://www.peoplesbookscoop.org/
Alfred May 05, 2012 at 02:31 PM
This is what happens when washed-up uber-progressives (read: Socialists) like Keith Schmitz play with other peoples' money in the free market. Sooner or later, they run out of other peoples' money. And 'Open Book' did just that. Remarkably quickly, I might add. $35K just doesn't go as far as it used to, especially when you have to, say, pay those pesky vendors for inventory and other such "unforeseen" nuisances.Enjoy your free health care.
Bert Sylvander May 05, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Keith, the budget Ryan has proposed will give a very large tax break to the so called "Job Creators". Who by the way have not created any jobs in the last ten years under the Bush tax cuts. And further more this Budget will rasie your taxes to cover those cuts. Wake up and read the Whole Bill, you will be inlightened and amazed how you will be taken for another Republican ride to the poor house
Bren May 05, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Borrowing started early in the Bush II administration to pay for the nonexistent "tax refunds." The surplus inherited by this president should have been put into Social Security or shore up another weak area in the budget. Instead, checks were mailed in an attempt to calm those who were furious about the 2000 election challenge. Money was borrowed toi cover the costs of printing and mailing, etc. It went downhill from there. Do you honestly believe Barack Obama would have needed to take the path that he (and world leaders in other countries) took if he had not inherited an economy near collapse? Please, let's keep it real. Paul Ryan's mind is filled with Ayn Rand-fueled self-idealism. Like one of her one-dimensional heroes, his mind is so fixed on his idea that there is no room for self-reflection or other viewpoints. However, Ryan's realized fantasies would have dire consequences, and in the real world; not in a book lying on the bargain table at an esoteric bookstore.
Randy1949 May 05, 2012 at 07:05 PM
The problem is, gentlemen, that Ryan's plan won't work. It curtails projected Medicare costs by cutting benefits and shifting them onto seniors themselves, while funding tax cuts for the wealthy in the belief that this will give us the prosperity and increased tax revenue that it never did from 2000 to 2008. It's a plan, but it's a stupid plan for anyone who isn't independently wealthy.
Randy1949 May 05, 2012 at 07:10 PM
@Alfred -- I've never read either book. However, I've read Ayn Rand, and the woman was a moron.
GearHead May 05, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Alfred, put a bunch of zeros behind that number, and looks like Keith is a shoo-in for an up and coming Obama company like Solyndra. And he lectures us???
Bren May 05, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Bert, unfortunately, Keith has been presented the facts over and over here on Patch and anywhere else reasonable people congregate but he still clings to the programmed ALEC talking points like a baby clutches a rattle instead of recognizing them for the manipulative b.s. that they really are. Not sure what's going to wake these folks up. I just wish we all didn't have to keep bearing the brunt of their ignorance. (The root word of "ignorance" is "ignore.")
Bren May 05, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Basically Ayn Rand celebrated antisocial behaviors, most especially stubbornness, in her writing. Her heroes subject themselves to punishments and setbacks because of their antisocial behavior, which are treated by Rand as a sort of purification process, instead of the completely and laughably avoidable situations they are (given patience and some tact). Compare and contrast Mr. Griswold in National Lampoon's "Vacation." He walked for miles in the unforgiving desert to help his family (who begged him to stay in the car). Two men watch him stagger past and say, "What an a--hole." Griswold finally totters, exhausted, up to a gas station, to find his car towed in and his family eating ice cream. We won't go into Ms. Rand's writing technique, but I have personally read works by children that conveyed a more believable, engaging voice, not to mention superior pace. Ms. Rand was all about compromise. She compromised her principles (or had none to begin with), first by becoming a passport bride to come to the U.S., and then compromising her marriage with adultery. If memory serves she was also an atheist. She fancied that her stubbornness on steroids concept should be named, and called it Existentialism, only to find that name was taken! So she called it Objectivism instead. Paul Ryan's hero, Ayn Rand. Yikes.
Joan S. May 05, 2012 at 08:38 PM
Dear Don - Socially Liberal & Fiscally Conservative... I think you nailed it right on the head... There are MANY SHADES of GRAY out there in terms of what you believe is the "right way" to live just as there are those who think they know the "right way" to provide "help" to those in need. Unfortunately, we don't have a clear cut way to measure someone in this seemingly 2 MAJOR party system. And so, we have to choose individuals who represent MOST of what we deem important in our individual quest to guide our society down "the right path". I would also add - that the constant DIVISION & FEAR among both sides of the political fence NEEDS TO stop. But our human nature to be attracted to disasters seems to prevent that from happening.
Bren May 05, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Ima--your scintillating wit astounds as usual. Gear, it's a recession. Reagan borrowed, Bush borrowed (and raised the debt ceiling 7 times!). All we can do is work to stop the downward slide and start inching back up, which is happening apparently everywhere but the Badger State. The best we can do next is introduce/re-establish/strengthen laws and regulations put in place after the Great Depression to keep this greed-based disaster from happening a third time. R. Denis, until the recession hit (before which I had time to read), I typically read one book per day, most recently for work-related issues. As a young person I typically read two or three or more, depending on the type. I love to read but can't tolerate poorly considered concepts, characters, pace, or sentence structure. I can read a 250 page novel in about two hours. It's all right to set down a screed, don't waste your life. My work requires me to keep abreast of developments in the field and anticipate. There is much data-rich content to read and ingest on a daily basis. Fortunately, I have good retention. You might want to revisit your use of punctuation before your next post. ; )
Bren May 05, 2012 at 09:01 PM
A lot of small businesses have failed due to the recession, as well as the large ones if you haven't forgotten. Borders, in particular, closed many stores. People's Books, if memory serves, used to be on Farwell Avenue and was known for selling controversial Marxist literature (hence "People's Books") among its other offerings. If one visits their website (as I just did), the word "Solidarity" is clearly posted. You seem to know quite a bit about this esoteric little bookstore, Alfred. Spend a lot of time there?
Bren May 05, 2012 at 09:15 PM
There is the question of what happens to the seniors who can't pay the additional expenses that have been pushed onto them. The government, i.e., taxpayers? The only difference I can see is that seniors will try not to go to the doctor, so when they do, they will be in worse circumstances and the cost of treatment to taxpayers will be even higher. Social programs are not the place to make the cuts. It might seem like a solution in the short term, but has the potential to have serious consequences in the future. My solution is to do some budget modeling exercises. Freeze programs as possible (no new programs, don't stop construction, etc. already in progress), end the Bush tax cuts that have done little but provide capital for job offshoring, estimate costs/revenue/social impact for two years (factoring in lower costs for military). Etc. I'm certain Ryan didn't do this with his social deconstruction project--I mean "budget,"--I don't recall Ayn Rand having any of her goofball heroes engage in this sort of exercise. Also, since Paul Ryan can look forward to a comfy retirement and benefits funded by we the taxpayer, what does he care if he's wrong? (At least Rand's heroes take responsibility for their own actions.) If political maneuvering and pandering to special interests could just take a rest for awhile a great deal of progress could be made in a very short amount of time. Alas.
Adam Wienieski May 05, 2012 at 11:51 PM
Once again Bren is attempting to spin new historical fact out of straw men. The reason "the rich" always benefit disproportionately from tax cuts is because they pay ALL the taxes. Take special note of the leftist assumption that all wealth belongs to the state so confiscating less of it is actually spending money on tax breaks for the rich. Our tax code is ridiculously progressive with the top 10 percent of households paying 70 percent of income taxes (after earning 45 percent of AGI in 2010) while the bottom 47 percent pays no federal income tax at all. In 2001 Bush inherited the Clinton recession caused by the collapse of the tech bubble and then the 9/11 attacks intended to paralyze our economy. After passing the bi-partisan tax reform package the economy experienced nearly six years of uninterrupted growth averaging 2.7 percent annual GDP and adding 8 million total jobs. Remember the good old days of democrats complaining about a "jobless recovery" because unemployment was still 6 percent in 2003? The democrat's easy money housing programs produced the financial crises that "collapsed" the economy but Obama's failed 1970's Keynesian policies have us trapped in a period of relentless economic decline. Paul Ryan is one of the few voices for painful but necessary fiscal sanity. Obama and the senate democrats have the country accelerating to impact and all poor Bren can think about is Ayn Rand (and ALEC.)
Gregory Kluck May 06, 2012 at 04:21 AM
You've obviously never seen Twilight fangirls lining up at the Ridge
Dirk Gutzmiller May 06, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Paul Ryan needs to man up. Cut military spending, cut corporate welfare, raise tariffs on anti-democratic countries that suppress human rights, i.e., Red China, cut taxes on the middle class by raising taxes on the mega-rich, tax churches, synagogues, and mosques just like any other enterprise, open tollways so those that use such conveniences also pay, and take the income cap off contributions for SS. There are many more "third rails" that Ryan is afraid of, for such a brave and heroic budget balancer. It is not heroic and courageous to take contributions from wealthy oligarchs and parrot their wishes. Anybody could do that, given a lack of a conscience..
Alfred May 06, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Dirk, we need goofs like you paying your fair share and stop mooching. Problem solved.
morninmist May 06, 2012 at 10:19 PM
http://www.politiscoop.com/us-politics/wisconsin-politics/1353-romney-ryan-budget-rash-and-irresponsible.html Romney-Ryan Budget - Rash and Irresponsible Sunday, 06 May 2012 08:42 Inventor of Romney-Ryan Budget Concept Says Implementing Premium Support Now Would Be "Rash and Irresponsible" MADISON - Noted economist Henry Aaron, a co-creator of the "premium support" concept central to the Mitt Romney-Paul Ryan budget plan that would end Medicare as we know it, is now stating that the Romney-Ryan budget "won't work. As detailed in a new report from The Huffington Post, Aaron testified before the House Ways and Means Committee last week, stating, "I've changed my mind" about the concept of premium support. Aaron also slammed the Romney-Ryan budget for failing to adequately regulate health insurance offerings and how they are sold, stating that the health insurance market under such a plan would be "deplorably inefficient" with serious consequences for the Medicare population. Aaron however praised President Obama's successful Affordable Care Act for taking steps to preserve Medicare and advocated for the full implementation of the Act as the best way to control rising health care costs. "Medical professionals, the faith community and now even the inventor of the central concept of the Romney-Ryan budget have come forward to say that this budget that ends Medicare as we know it is wrong for America,...
Luke May 06, 2012 at 10:36 PM
It's a big tent. They squeezed me in.
Adam Wienieski May 06, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Obama should task a bi-partisan blue ribbon committee to look into ways the fiscal situation can be improved and achieve fiscal sustainability over the long run. It would need a properly decorous title like the "National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform" or such. It would need a respected politician from each side like former senator Alan Simpson and perhaps democrat Erskine Bowles to do the politically delicate work of recommending cuts in defense and discretionary spending. Theoretically, cuts in benefits for Social Security and Medicare could be considered. If the Obama administration has any leadership potential or political courage this would be a historic opportunity to save Social Security and Medicare for future generations while putting the country on solid financial ground before we lose our AAA credit rating or those crazy republicans like Paul Ryan come up with their own plan.
Nick Poulos May 07, 2012 at 03:50 AM
What is the desired end-state, the point of arrival to which you look? when you adore this destroyer of America's system, the democratic republic. Is No one is asking the right questions? so much remains concealed: at the very least, don't you want to ask a few questions that expose that which remains hidden and unspoken? Those of you who worship this well-spoken, educated, articulate man fail to admit and or to realize that Paul Ryan represents a dangerous force to our democratic republic. That budget was a fraudulent cross-bow shot that was meant to further inflame and divide our nation: absurd in its entirety. So Ryan is either duping those of you applauding, or he is leading a false and destructive new ethics that you share or no one chooses to look for the truth - for that which remains concealed: truth is un-hiddenness. Which one?! We need Augustinian/Aristotelian leadership, not a Ayn Rand "objectivist" - self-centered, divisive and completely solipsistic. The best one can hope for is that Ryan is merely the scrivener-puppet of the plutocratic oligarchy, their willing "photogenic" front man, whom you choose to adulate. In and of itself, that fact can only be a tragic mistake for America's democratic republic and for Wisconsin in particular: do any of you remember Proxmire?
Keith Schmitz May 07, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Yes little man. I'm a horrible crook. Run along and play.
morninmist May 08, 2012 at 11:18 AM
And Ryna's buddy Mitt is a sleaze ball also!! Blue Gal/Fran ‏ @bluegal Sorry, Romney-defenders, I don't vote for candidates who hide $3M in Swiss Bank Accounts. #LastWord 8h Sasha Sasha ‏ @sasha031 Mitt Romney: Mitt Romney Declines to Correct Crazy Woman Accusing Obama of 'Treason' - @Gawker http://gawker.com/5908371/mitt-romney-declines-to-correct-crazy-woman-accusing-obama-of-treason
BobNY May 08, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Actually, Bert and Bren, the "Bush tax cuts" actually did stimulate jobs, until the results of the CRA ( a democratic monster) destroyed the economy. But then again, giving loans to those who cannot afford them isn't a very good idea in the first place.
Summer Hemphill May 10, 2012 at 05:31 AM
Paul Ryan is a smug political poser who's divisive proposals stand no chance of ever becoming law ! However due to their inflammatory nature they're sure to drive enough Republicans & Independents to President Obama this November that they should be instrumental in the Democrats efforts to retake both house of Congress !!!


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