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League of Women Voters Says Voter ID Law Unconstitutional

The organization filed suit in Dane County Circuit Court on Oct. 20.

When Governor Scott Walker signed the Voter ID bill into law, the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin says he essentially created another class of citizen - ones who cannot vote - and that is unconstitutional.

According to a story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the League filed suit against the state on Thurs., Oct. 20, that alleges the Voter ID bill is unconstitutional. The state constitution currently allows lawmakers to exclude convicted felons and those deemed incompetent from casting votes.

The law will go into effect in February after being passed last spring.

To vote, citizens must show a government issued or approved photo identification. A driver's license, state, military, tribal or college ID, passport, or a naturalization certificate. The problem, the suit says, is that even if the state waives the $28 fee for the ID, so much documentation is required to get that far, people have already come out of pocket. Birth certificates, for example, cost about $20 and replacing a lost state ID that was originally free can go for $16.

Walker has issued a statement, saying the photo ID requirement is just common sense.

"We require it to get a library card, cold medicine, and public assistance. I will continue to implement common sense reforms that protect the electoral process and increases citizens’ confidence in the results of our elections," he said in the statement. "Ensuring the integrity of our elections is one of the core functions of government. Photo ID moves Wisconsin forward."

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Hudson Resident October 23, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Sorry, wrong conclusion on your part. That is why it is so hard to argue with you people. As for me, I don't belong to the Republican party. I'm too conservative for them.
Steve October 24, 2011 at 12:06 am
You guys are hopeless the analogy fits. You take every silly thing to court just to stall real reform. Don't worry you will still be able to vote for your favorite democrat at the time, but only once this time around.
Steve October 24, 2011 at 12:08 am
How did you cash the check? I would imagine it was at an institution that required a photo ID to set up an account.
Dirk October 25, 2011 at 02:12 pm
I'm still trying to figure out why students, minorities, and elderly wouldn't have state-issued ID's? Obviously, just a democratic political manuever. Weak.
Randy1949 October 25, 2011 at 06:28 pm
It's because the State ID is not something one normally needs. Students have their school IDs, which don't conform to the Voter ID standards. The elderly often suddenly find themselves without a valid picture ID when they no longer have a driver's license. Basically, it's a hassle to get if you have no transportation, have limited time to waste in line at the DMV, or are in poor health like my mother.
And then to face the added hurdle of having to re-locate a birth certificate after many years . . . Some people are going to decide it's not worth the trouble.
Hudson Resident October 25, 2011 at 06:43 pm
If it's not worth the trouble, then they shouldn't vote.
Lyle Ruble October 25, 2011 at 06:46 pm
@Hudson Resident....Just eliminating the voice of the opposition; right!
Ben Hogan October 25, 2011 at 07:09 pm
my god how hard is it to show some ID. Grow up people!
CowDung October 25, 2011 at 07:25 pm
Student IDs can indeed conform to voter ID standards...
Valid student IDs from an accredited college in Wisconsin, with the student' signature and a two year expiration date are acceptable.
James R Hoffa October 25, 2011 at 07:55 pm
@Randy1949
"it's a hassle to get if you have no transportation, have limited time to waste in line at the DMV, or are in poor health like my mother." Just like actually going to vote can be a hassle if you "have no transportation, have limited time to waste in line ..., or are in poor health...." And yet, you don't complain about the voting process in and of itself for some reason. Not to mention that if you're doing same day registration, you have to provide proof of residency requiring you to find documentation, brining it along, and presenting it to poll workers. So basically, getting the ID is just like voting. So, if these people are willing and wanting to vote, then what's the big hiccup over getting the ID? After all, if they can vote, then clearly they can get the ID as it's basically the same level of involvement and commitment as actually voting.
James R Hoffa October 25, 2011 at 08:02 pm
If you bothered to read my comment, you'd see that I said that Nickolaus's work was "sloppy, and she ignored recommendations made by officials." But that doesn't mean that they were contrary to state election laws. Personally, I think that all jurisdictions should wait to report anything until after the official canvas has been completed. Our need for instant satisfaction instead of allowing for a quality and accurate count is far more damaging to the system than any of Nickolaus's actions have been.
And isn’t your side that’s saying that fraud needs to be proven before the Republicans can point to a legitimate problem that the voter ID law aims to rectify? I believe it is. So where is your positive proof that Nickolaus ever committed any kind of fraud? Oh yeah, that’s right – there isn’t any. So stop being a hypocrite and stop going after Nickolaus every time a Democrat loses an election!
James R Hoffa October 25, 2011 at 08:05 pm
I agree that electronic voting machines should not be used and that every ballot cast be done so via a paper ballot.
Randy1949 October 25, 2011 at 10:59 pm
JRH -- I can walk to my polling place. The nearest DMV is another story. My mother votes absentee and is already registered -- she proved what she had to already and is not planning a move. This is putting extra obstacles in the way of a Constitutional right in order to solve a non-existent problem.
Randy1949 October 25, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Hey -- my mother could show her old drivers license -- the address is the same and she doesn't look much different. Will that be good enough? Probably not, and that's where we get to the voter suppression part of things.
robert heule October 26, 2011 at 12:09 am
@ Zelda, The Republicans advocate the use of voting machines that have no paper trail, thereby making it impossible to conduct a recount. These machines are used mainly in southern states. Diebold Co. the largest manufacturer of these machines gives tens of thousands of $$$ to Republican candidates.
robert heule October 26, 2011 at 01:00 am
One the easiest ways to perpetuate an emotional issue is to write a bill that is so bad that it will be thrown out by a court. This was done for decades by the GOP on various anti-abortion bills. If the bills were allowed to become law, the issue would be forgotten about. The Wisconsin voter suppression act falls into that category. If the courts throw it out, the GOP can blame the court and wave the flag of fear and join talk radio in scaring the crap out of the people.
James R Hoffa October 26, 2011 at 05:12 am
@Randy1949 -
The right to freely traverse our national borders is also a right guaranteed by our constitution, however, I don't see you getting all hysterical over the process/procedure involved in getting a passport, which is far more onerous than getting a voter ID. With rights come responsibilities requiring a certain level of individual commitment.
robert heule October 28, 2011 at 07:27 pm
One final shot.
The official title of the picture ID law: The Stone Voter Suppression Act of 2011 This is my own statement, not authorized by law? Bring it on.
Zelda October 29, 2011 at 01:13 am
@Robert Heule. Thanks for backing me up. I know all about Diebold and voter machines. As I've said here before, Germany banned them as unconstitutional because they had so many problems and there was so much potential for manipulating the system. It was really interesting watching the A.P. the night of the supreme court election. All the reports were coming in regularily and nothing was unusual until, surprise, Waukesha County. It ground to a halt as I knew it would and the A.P. closed shop at about 1 a.m. It took two days but Kloppenburg lost the election giving Scooter and gang complete control. Their big game plan would have been in vain if Kloppenburg had won. Have your read this story? http://www.kentucky.com/2010/03/26/1197075/jury-convicts-all-8-defendants.html The voter suppression law wouldn't have stopped this from happening, would it? The end of the story brings in manipulation of the voter machines.
Zelda October 29, 2011 at 01:42 am
I'm sorry that I mistook you for a Republican. You must be an Ayn Rand admirer then, huh?
Tonto October 29, 2011 at 03:02 am
they can't cheat then if the ID busts the liberal game. why do you think they are whinning so bad. Can't have an honest vote.
Hudson Resident October 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm
What a bunch of crybabies. Must be hard on you to think that you'll only get one vote a piece from now on....
Rick October 29, 2011 at 02:41 pm
@Log... so glad you notice that i do tend to find other sources that back up my points. Unlike many that spew party lines without any foundation for their position. However i dont need a web article today... wasnt there a news story about the guy that moved into a hotel and voted in the 2010 election... he was from Illinois if memory serves me correctly.
I am glad we are finally trying to do something to get back to a real honest election and eliminate fraud... the laws didnt go far enough in my opinion. We still have some of the following things happening... Supposed "get out the vote" works going door to door asking if everyone voted today... and then placing a cell call to "record the answers"... I think it would be a safe bet where those recordings of those voters was cast. Students voting absentee and then also registering in the district they go to school in... bet that NEVER happens. Don't foget the wonderful job the get out the vote crowd did in 2000... more people voted in Milwaukee than were registered.... Wonder if Ms Nocholas was the county clerk in Mke that year?! So with things like these incidents happening... what makes you think it will suddenly stop without changes?
Rick October 29, 2011 at 03:05 pm
@James.... I dont agree with the analogy of the passport and proof of who you are to vote. However I think you are correct on the points about the law being constitional and will be ruled that way. The Wisc. law was based on laws in other stats that have already been tested. I am a little suprised that the LWV did take the suit up... guess they are more left leaning that I ever thought.
@Keith... Carl Rove with his hand picked DA's? Where did you get that intel? You assert that none was found... the same arguement about disenfranchised voters can be made. While there isnt much reporting about the fraud that is occurning, there is enough to know it is happening. Other than some essoteic refrence to a 92 year old woman being disenfranchised (a URL would be nice to see) i have not heard anything but retoric... My bottom line on voting is this... 1. I want to vote knowing that my voice as well as all other legimate votes voice is heard. 2. Our government needs to really treat voter fraud seriously, because it is serious. 3. Every person who has a right to vote should be able to do so with as little inconvience as possible. But to asset that no level of proof of that right allows fraud. 4. Even one stolen election is one too many... the more we move toward ignorning fraud the more likely it is to happen.
John Feia October 30, 2011 at 02:10 pm
Your kidding right?
From http://rootriversiren.blogspot.com/2011/02/ufo-sightings-outnumber-cases-of-voter.html "In 2008 the State Justice Department found that out of nearly 3 million votes cast, they were pursuing 14 cases of voter fraud. That same year, there were 40 reported cases of UFO sightings in Wisconsin. In a state like Wisconsin that could easily cost $2.4 million alone.That would mean a price tag of $1.43 million for each case of voter fraud. Wow. "
John Feia October 30, 2011 at 02:12 pm
Even if the math from that site doesn't add up, give me a break!
John Feia October 30, 2011 at 02:13 pm
Instead of suppressing the vote, why not try winning it?
Hudson Resident October 30, 2011 at 06:37 pm
Why not try stopping with the whining John? Nothing but crybabies, that's all you guys are.
John Feia October 31, 2011 at 02:25 am
Good comeback...
Gregg November 3, 2011 at 02:49 am
Very few prosecutions for littering. I guess that is proof it's not happening? Well where is all that garbage in the ditches coming from? Mindless liberal trash?
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Rees; When the Sacred village Board cloaked the building of a new Village hall for over $17 million,Read More it was brought to there attention to build TWO new fire stations. One south, one north. Instead they built the Taj Mahal and a distance fire station. Maybe the two remaining Trustees could orate their decision for the residents.
Neigbors at green ridge June 18, 2013 at 01:49 am
Mt Pleasant is in need of competent people ! Who would of built the new headquarter on 90th St ?Read More Wouldn't of it made sense to build by the Fire Department on HWY 31 ? Would of made sense you would of at least met the village taxpayer half way ! Oh another thing I noticed Chief Police do your patrol officers think its cool with there phone in there hand while driving its very obvious there not talking business ! If any one gets hit by a patrol car make sure they receive a ticket for inattentive driving !
Chris Larsen June 7, 2013 at 09:40 am
Typical John. Long on vitriol and talking points but no ideas of his own. And what have you done forRead More your district this term John? Have you met with the Boards in the Villages and Towns you represent? Listening sessions in Mt Pleasant or Sturtevant? Que the crickets.......
C. Sanders June 13, 2013 at 12:07 am
John Lehman ... Long on wind and short on accomplishment. another politician on auto-pilot until theRead More next election.
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Steven W. Smith June 8, 2013 at 07:40 am
Hmm "make a stronger Wisconsin than ever". Yup Scottie, 44th in the country is the beat!Read More Soon 50th? Inverted math? "The recall brought us closer together" You won spending 6-1 using a majority of out of state $, had 5 times longer to campaign and won because one side failed to confront the second battle of recalls as a whole vs Scotties recall. "For decades we will be able to look up public officials and hopefuls, teachers, neighbors, interviewees" so much for freedom of speech & the recall Scott Walker used to become Milwaukee's head of busted political officials. Scott you were hired to represent all citizens of Wisconsin.
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