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Teacher Thugs: Who Needs Them?

All these Chicago teachers protesting in the streets should be grateful or shut up. Afterall, most of them are useless anyway, right?**

In Chicago, 29,000 teachers were on strike because their corrupt union told them to. This is just another example of the sheer selfishness of these teachers. As they head back to the classroom, I hope they live in fear of losing their over-paid, over-rated jobs for good.

One of the complaints from the teachers in Illinois is the lack of air conditioning in the schools. Oh come on. What a bunch of babies. Kids have been producing in sweat shops for decades and you’re telling me they cannot read and write in a crowded room that's 90 degrees? Please. Most of those public school kids are so fat they could probably stand to sweat out a few Twinkies anyway.

And don’t get me started on the 16% pay increase over a four year period. Sure. Maybe the cost of living in Chicago is higher than a skyscraper on stilts. Maybe many of the teachers spend as much as $5,000 a year to supply their students with the basics. But an average of $74,000 a year for salary?? With that kind of money, they probably spend their entire lazy-filled summers on their yachts and taking trips to Morocco and Italy.

How dare these teachers ask for a higher wage just because they'll be working longer hours? Sure, I get double pay when I work overtime in the private sector. But maybe they should have chosen a better profession. And all this talk about grading papers all night. Please. How difficult can it be to write the letter “F” over and over?

These thugs are complaining about having only one nurse to every 3 schools. Why should taxpayers have to pay for nurses to take care of kids who aren’t ours anyway? They are schools, not hospitals and anyone should be able to put on a bandage.

Teachers and their supporters are worried about the privatization of schools – leaving public schools in the dust. I say go ahead!! This is one industry that has the opportunity to make CEOs and stockholders a whole heck of a lot of cashola. Let these kids do double duty as students and commodities – what’s the harm in that? Public services never did nothin’ for nobody. Those damn fire fighters are lazy wimps. Those police officers do nothing but eat donuts. And those parks? Who needs them? They are just a mecca for good for nothin’ homeless people anyway.

Oh! And they don’t like the idea of being evaluated by standardized tests? What are they so afraid of? Standardized tests rock. Corporate synergy (not sure what that is really, but I heard it on Fox) has made it easy for high-profiting corporations to bank on these tests. And we all know that when profit is a motivator, the best interests of the masses will remain a priority. And so what if some of these corporations are in bed with other corporations that will benefit greatly if public schools fail and privatization becomes the mainstream. Again…money = good. Teachers = bad.

They say it has been proven that these tests consistently reflect family wealth, physical health and neighborhood quality differences rather than school effectiveness. Well maybe that is just another way of thinning out the herd. Unhealthy kids in bad neighborhoods can work harder if they really want to and if they can’t – that is clearly the teacher’s fault. Get rid of those ineffective teachers and leave those dumber kids at the bottom where nature intended.

I have heard educators complain about the heavy police presence in schools, too many metal detectors taking up space and time and causing a distraction. I agree. Get rid of them all. After all, students should be armed. It IS their constitutional right to protect themselves. Maybe all these school shootings could finally turn into a fair fight. And in the bad schools, let them just kill each other off…less for society to worry about.

I say fire all these teachers. We can easily find a ton of jobless people on the street to teach our kids. I don’t care if they do not have the proper training or education. Anyone can do it. Hell, even my 14-year-old niece babysits. How hard can it be to sit at a desk all day, spout off about how NObama is such a great President and throw some liberal propaganda at the kids for them to read. Sure, countries like Finland have the highest scoring students and their teachers happen to be the most educated. But this is AMERICA! If you think Finland is so great – then move to Asia.

Lazy, greedy thugs. They were probably just striking to get a few extra days off from work. I think it is obvious what needs to happen. We need a war against teachers, unions and all public employees. Not only because war is cool and we can blow crap up, but also because these people are sucking money away from the people who REALLY need it…like Koch Industries, Exxon Mobile and JP Morgan. Because remember…they are people, too.

**Today’s sarcasm was brought to you with thanks to all those insightful, open-minded, compassionate commenters, bloggers and editorial writers on Patch, Journal Times and all over the internet.

Dave Koven September 22, 2012 at 06:33 pm
Hoffa...Other teachers get sick or promise their families they will slow down too. They are no less noble than Escalante. Why did his family move away? Was it because he was putting too much of himself into his work, as you would have him do, leaving not enough for his family? As for lobbying against bi-lingual education in California, it makes no sense. Those Spanish speaking kids are THERE. They're not going away. They'll learn English eventually, but what do you do with them in the here and now. Blaming the union for his cancer is ludicrous. As for whining, were you there? I'll bet he whined plenty when his political medals he won were ignored when he wanted to do away with bi-lingual education. If you bothered to think beyond your prejudices, you might understand more. Re-read my previous comments. You'll learn a lot about the realities of education, which have to change, before we can solve any of the problems. Remember, it's not whining, it's explaining. Usted tiene que aprender a pensar mas.
Brian Dey September 22, 2012 at 06:52 pm
Dave Koven- With all due respect, I have been trying to reform education. I've walked a mile in your shoes and have spent tears and hours in elemenery, middle and high school classrooms as an instructor for Junior Achievement. As a school board member, I have observed classes at all levels. I have sat on educational boards including an advisory borad to the then House Majority Leader. I currently sit as the President of an instrumentality charter school, helped draft policies for governance of school districts and recently ran an lost because the teachers were vehemently opposed to change.
The telling comment you made was that the "the public can be totally unreasonable". It is that attitude that stand in the way of better education. Honesly, I will admit that the "public" doesn't hold public education accountable enough. Long before their were unions, public education in America funtioned at a much higher level than since it has organized. I can tell you that at least in the world of instrumentality charter schools, by law they can not discriminate in any way shape or form in accepting students. In ours, they do not pick and choose the best of the best. In the private sector, the religious schools canstantly out perform most pulic schools. Charters are a new territory, but no one has ever called for the elimination of public schools. Stop the excuses and find solutions. That is what we are doing.
James R Hoffa September 22, 2012 at 07:33 pm
@Koven -
Do other teachers put in the initial effort that Escalante did before getting sick or slowing down? Some do, but like Hoffa said, they tend to be the exception. You just don't get it! "Was it because he was putting too much of himself into his work, as you would have him do, leaving not enough for his family? " Escalante wanted to dedicate himself to his work! No one forced him to do so. What Escalante displayed was the mindset of a true professional - not a whining unionista. And that is how he earned the respect that you now whine about not receiving from people! "As for lobbying against bi-lingual education in California, it makes no sense." Obviously, you teach them English first. Did Hoffa really need to point out the obvious to you? And then you wonder why you command such little respect. "Blaming the union for his cancer is ludicrous." Receiving serious death threats against both himself and his family induced a lot of stress. And yes, his wife largely attributed his battles with with union for causing and spreading his cancer. The unions tried to shut him down for teaching over the maximum number of kids allowed, teacher longer hours than allowed, and other contract violations. It upset him greatly and caused him a lot of grieve and stress. What does it say when one of the best teachers ever stood strongly opposed to the teachers union? As McBride pointed out, you're not explaining - you're whining!
James R Hoffa September 22, 2012 at 07:38 pm
Bottom line Dave is that if you want respect, you get it via Escalante's way.
And everyone pretty much respects such teachers that give 110%, don't whine and complain, and makes it 100% about the kids instead of themselves. You don't gain respect the way that you've chosen with staged sick-outs, marching in front of the capital with blue fist posters, recalling public officials, using the schools as recruitment centers for the Democratic Party, etc. The way that you've chosen to try to earn respect is the text book example of how not to garner respect from the community at large! If you're blind to that, then all Hoffa can say is WOW!!!
Dave Koven September 22, 2012 at 08:11 pm
Brian Dey...Congratulations on your hard work towards improving education. I mean this honestly...it is truly appreciated. With respect, teaching classes is a lot different than observing classes and Junior Achievement is an elective, so I'd presume the kids want to be there. In the old days, the pre-union days, kids didn't have so much garbage competing for their attention. As a matter of fact, homework was seen as an entertainment because there wasn't too much else for kids to do. Teachers did everything from janitorial work to stoking the fire for the day. Most teachers were women, and they were discouraged from marrying. Men became teachers usually if there were no qualified women and, sadly, they were perceived as not being able to do too much else. Early teachers were boarded at the homes of their students. They were there at the sufferance of the community. Some families were more generous than others. Other men were hired to teach if they were big enough to beat up the oldest boys in their class a la the Hoosier Schoolmaster. In those days, people were often in awe of educated people, and the teacher was respected. They were often called upon for their wisdom in community matters (not just school matters). Many community members were immigrants and they knew the value a good education can bring. They backed the teachers, in most cases, not their children who they knew would goof around if given a chance. Hard work was the norm.
Dave Koven September 22, 2012 at 08:25 pm
Brian Dey...Things have certainly changed. The workplace has been so speeded up electronically that most parents are getting burned out. Teachers and parents are expected to be on call 24/7 since your office can be where ever you are. Consequently, parents are asking the schools to do more and more that the family USED to do. (e.g. sex ed. driver's ed., bullying counseling, etc. etc. etc.) This all takes time away from academics. Kids today are different too. They all know their rights (but often not their responsibilities). Parents, being tired from the new workplace are less inclined to lay down the law with their kids. They also feel a bit guilty for not wanting to lead more child centered lives, so they try to be "buddies" instead, rather than doing some of the unpopular things like turning off the TV from 7 to 9:30 for study time, , closely monitoring their kid's computers and video games for sexual or violence content, and going over their child's homework with them and etc. The guilt makes them take their acting out child's side rather than pointing out what behavior will not be tolerated. As you might be aware from your work in education, so-called "solutions" for education problems swing back and forth like a pendulum. One minute it's the old math, the next it's the "new math", phonics vs. whatever the method du jour is. Educational supervisors "supervise". They have a vested interest in finding something wrong with whatever is current.
Dave Koven September 22, 2012 at 08:41 pm
Brian Dey...If they don't find something wrong, even when there isn't anything, they have no reason to go to work. So constant turmoil is the norm in education. As for union "tactics", how would you handle meeting the reasonable needs of teachers? Asking people nicely doesn't seem to work. It is only when people lose a teacher's services that they appreciate what they had. Recalls are legal, and demonstrations are legal. As for teachers being accountable, read my previous posts on that. Teachers have more people keeping an eye on them than most other jobs. The problem is that there are so many variables that go into raising/teaching a child that there is a lot of disagreement on how this could be done. different kids...different results fora zillion different reasons. The public can be unreasonable, particularly when it comes to their kids. They want champagne results on a beer budget. Their interest in the schools disappears the minute THEIR kid is out of them. PTA turnovers are huge for this reason. In the old days all you really needed was an eighth grade education, you had few distractions for the kids, and the teacher was respected and backed. In return the teacher had to take on the lifestyle of a nun and be willing to be judged by everyone in town. They did it because there weren't many alternatives for women in those days. These are interesting times, and I hope we don't wreck our schools in the name of reforming them. Thanks for your time.
James R Hoffa September 22, 2012 at 09:12 pm
@Koven -
Dave, Dave, Dave! Just when it appeared that you were actually explaining instead of whining, you jump back into the whining! And much of the whining is so far from reality, it's scary! "Recalls are legal, and demonstrations are legal." Doing what's legal doesn't always earn you the respect you demand, does it? Everything the Koch Bros do have been decided to be legal, and yet, the Democratic left-wing has very little respect for them. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it will get you what you desire. And engaging in those tactics, regardless of how legal they were, lost your profession a lot of respect. And instead of disassociating yourself from those acts, instead you choose to embrace them, and yet still have the nerve to complain about not getting any respect - that's simply incredible! "They want champagne results on a beer budget." Only Switzerland spends more on public education than we do. Otherwise every single nation spends less on public education than we do, and currently 8 of those nations are achieving better results than us for far less money. What's wrong with that picture? The problem isn't funding - it's whining instead of just doing the job that you voluntarily signed up for!
Dave Koven September 22, 2012 at 09:22 pm
Hoffa..Obviously, you don't understand much of anything I've said in a polite dialogue with you. I've never heard you entertain a new idea (for you) in all the letters you've written to me or others. I don't mind being disagreed with, but you are like a rude broken record. So, I'll keep it simple so you can understand it: Blow it out your ass, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. Try not to communicate with me in the future. We just don't agree on anything. You're boring.
James R Hoffa September 22, 2012 at 09:59 pm
@Koven -
Please don't misinterpret Hoffa. Hoffa concurs that as a society, we can only provide the opportunity - it's up to the individual student to take full advantage of the opportunity that we provide them with. But for the money that we spend on public education, number 2 in all the world, we should be achieving number 2 results, but we're not. Currently we're number 9. For that money, shouldn't we be getting the very best teachers available? As a taxpayer, don't you agree with this? You also can't deny that the union acts to protect bad teachers, as opposed to assuring only the very best in quality. Otherwise why would the union be so adamantly opposed to merit based pay? You're also well aware of the challenges that your profession faces before choosing such a career path. Thus shouldn't it be expected that all teachers are ready to take on those challenges head on as opposed to complaining and trying to point the finger elsewhere? It's true that no matter how good the teacher is, some students just won't respond - but not a large majority of them. You also don't gain much respect by claiming that improving the system will require even more money, in light of the facts as they are. Do you honestly not realize this? Hoffa was really liking the explanation part, and concurs with most of it, but could do without the whining part. That's all Hoffa will say.
Brian Dey September 22, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Dave Koven- I appreciate the career you have chosen. I mean that sincerely. But I disagree with you on few things about reform. When does reformation occur? When something isn't going right. Is all reform good? No.
Simply put, the people paying the bills are not happy with the results they are seeing. The most effective person in education is the teacher. It's not the administrator, or cental office. The one thing I can tell you with 20+ years working with education, is that simple idea has been lost in failing districts, and hailed in successful ones. The singlemost important relationship is between the teacher and student. It's not even with the parent. You have no ability to change their homelife, upbringing or socio-economic status of their family. In the districts I have worked with, that is the first thing I tell the administrators. So breaking down those walls are the first step to reform. Just a first thought to ponder... I will have a blog on this this week to go into more detail this coming week.
Greg September 22, 2012 at 10:40 pm
"Chicago teachers, used to the shortest school day and year of any major U.S. city, acceded to Emanuel's plan for longer hours: an increase to 7 hours a day from 5 hours and 45 minutes at elementary schools, and to 7 1/2 hours from 7 hours at most high schools. The academic year will grow by 10 days. However, the strike also earned the teachers concessions: High school students will spend the extra time in a study hall rather than being instructed, and future schedule changes will have to be approved in a vote by teachers."
70% of a work day X 70% of a work year = 70% failing students What could be wrong with this equation? Paying teachers for more study hall?
Dave Koven September 23, 2012 at 01:22 am
Brian Dey...I agree with your statement about the most important relationship is between teacher and student. With that thought in mind, I feel that the teacher, and not the Principal, should have the power to suspend a student. The student should know that YOU are the man he has to deal with. If he "lipped off" to his boss, he'd be fired. This important lesson could be learned in school where the consequences wouldn't be so expensive. Why are the teachers getting all the bad public relations? They don't decide the policies, decide where millions of dollars will be spent. Why aren't the "power elite" excoriated for their lousy decisions (e.g. "No Child Left Behind, Just Say No, language labs, etc). We're required to take classes (at our own expense) to stay current. Fine, I say, but then we learn that what we are doing is wrong. When we point it out, (you'd think they'd want the benefit of the knowledge they asked us to get) we're told we're insubordinate or we don't understand (read this as shut up, you'll make some powerful politician look bad.) Also, all reform is not good. Hitler and Stalin turned the schools into propaganda mills to get kids to die for the "Father/Motherland". We do the same things, but not as blatantly. We glorify leaders who weren't all that glorious (e.g. Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, JFK...I could go on and on). " Knowledge is power"...except when you're a teacher. I look forward to your blog.
Dave Koven September 23, 2012 at 01:40 am
Brian Dey...One final point. "The most effective person in education is the teacher". You believe this, and I wish it were true. A lot of people get between teacher and student that shouldn't be there. I don't understand why a Master's degree or Ph.D of a teacher should be worth less than an Administrator's degrees. The leaders are more politicians than educators. The guy who buys the toilet paper should be under the teachers, not over him/her. They tend to not be creative because change is dangerous. The things needed to improve education will not be popular with the people...ergo there goes the self-interest aspect of the politicians. Unless you can think of anything better, the union is needed to protect a creative teacher or administrator who wants to implement changes (popular or unpopular but needed, within the community's schools. They say that "communities get the kinds of schools they want". We're in serious trouble here on many different levels.
James R Hoffa September 23, 2012 at 02:07 am
Hoffa concurs that JFK was a complete POS and the worst of the worst!
See Koven, you and Hoffa do have some things in common ;-)
Brian Dey September 23, 2012 at 02:38 am
Dave Koven- I'm sure you will find that in most instances in my findings, it weighs heavily on the administration structure and decision-making, as well as school board performance, and not on the classroom. I am a proponent of site-based management, getting away from the central office decision -making that has a one-size fits all approach. I tend to speak specifically about the district I live in and once represented, but have found this to be true with almost every single large-urban school district I've worked with. I do not hold a degree, so I have no prejudices for against, but come from a more common sense approach. I see the union and administration as being the road block to successful change. Most will not like some of my ideas of change from within, but I hope people can look past personal self-interest, and look at the bigger picture and what will continue to happen if the structural set-up is not changed. I'm glad that we got to have an adult conversation that so often doesn't happen on blogs.
Jerry Person September 23, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The author of this must have used the prizon computer to write this. He must hate society and himself so much he wants the world to fail. Just like GW Bush he must hate our freedoms and democracy. Anyone who as ever had a JOB knows better. This is a gangbanger republican just push his gangs sick ideals. Remeber a while back they were torturing people until GW was exposed. They are one sick breed of muts.
Jerry Person September 23, 2012 at 12:17 pm
When I was in school and was being punish for something stupid I said or did I called the teach a thug . Then once I matured I realized that the teacher was doing their JOB. It help me keep in line. Thanks for the guidence all you bad teachers.(LOL). The auther must be the village idiot with an drinking problem. Sober people know better.
Dave Koven September 23, 2012 at 03:29 pm
Brian Dey...I have to remind you that degreed people have "common sense" too. We're not all "mad scientists". LOL We'll never really get away from "self-interest". Frankly, I feel people are entitled to "quid pro quo". You can't fly around being a social kamikaze willing to crash and burn by sacrificing your own family's financial needs for the good of a community who hired you. People would only take advantage of you. To a degree, this is what has happened to teachers. The community took advantage of the idealism most teachers have and began to pass more and more work onto them. It got to a point where people lost respect for people who were willing to turn themselves into "servants". Teachers were EXPECTED to be "dedicated", meaning...not in it for the money. They were seen as children, like the ones they taught. They could be sent to the Principal's office to be "called on the carpet" for almost anything. "I pay your salary", so you have to do whatever I tell you, no matter how unfair. Thus Unions were born. The community wasn't used to "uppityness" from teachers, hence the animosity towards unions instead of towards the community's rude demands. This has nothing to do with quality of teaching. As a matter of fact, most people think their community's schools are good (to raise their real estate values, probably). They mostly like all of THEIR child's teachers...it's those OTHER guys. Communities are spoiled and teachers are seen as second class citizens.
Brian Dey September 23, 2012 at 03:51 pm
Dave Koven- Again, don't take that declaration to be directed at teachers. I preface any explanation about reforms by stating that fact and am referancing this in regards to administrators and school boards.
We are in a time of financial contration worldwide and have it has been happening for the past two decades. It is now affecting you personally, but many have had if affect them years ago. In all areas and careers, individuals are being asked to do more for less. Just to remind you, the community, not parents solely, but at large sees the data and sees their tax bills rise. They see the headlines, and a lot of the data in large school districts is not good. Graduation rates are plummenting, habitual truancy is on the rise and yes, test scores are not good. Let me use the analogy of buying what you thought was a good car, and you paid top dollar for it. Weeks after you buy it, the engine isn't running right. Then the transmission isn't running right. No matter how much money you put into it, it still isn't working right. In most cases, you are mad at the dealership that sold you the car because that is your direct line of frustration and easiest contact to reach. When in reality, it is the manufacturer that deserves your ire. Same in the schools. The teacher is the easiest cont to let your frustrations out on. When in reality, it is the administration or the school board behind what isn't working.
Brian Dey September 23, 2012 at 04:06 pm
Dave Koven- You see, what the public, and unfortunately the administrators and school boards, and yes even teachers, fail to realize is that those standardized test scores are not a reflection of the classroom as it is the tools that the teachers are given through directives of administrators and school board policy. In short, they are a judgement if the curriculum aligns with the states requirements. It deals more with systemic problems, rather than individual student performance.
When I look at reforming education, that is what I see in say the WKCE scores, not that teachers are not doing a good job. But what I do see in individual classrooms is reflected by ongoing trends and can formulate that if the curriculum is aligned, and certain areas seem to create a pattern of underperformance by students, then maybe that teacher is not teaching certain areas that are required. But, and I say this as an area that can and needs to change before respect is earned by the community, their are areas of professionism that has been lost in the teaching profession. Teachers are not dressing professional, and in some cases, not even business casual. Some dress like gang members, and some dress like bums. While your union may have given you the right to dress like that, that doesn't mean it is the right thing to do to gain respect. It carries on with a lot of rights you have, but don't earn you the respect of even your students.
Dave Koven September 23, 2012 at 04:08 pm
Brian Dey...Just a reminder...Teachers, by and large, have always done more with less, AND THEIR taxes and costs have gone up too. There's two ways we can lose this country. We can underfund the military to the point where we can't be protected from invasion, or we can underfund and degrade the schools and teachers to the point that no one will want to become a teacher. Our students will then not be able to compete in the world market place, and we will have our country bought out from under us by foreign interests. Look at the size of the tables and the throne like chairs for the various govt. committees. They cost a fortune! Cut stuff like that before the military or education. Lifetime pensions for one-term elected officials? There's a lot of FEMA trailers that could be cleaned up and used for office space for our elected "bigshots". Free haircuts for senators in the senate barbershop? I could run a school/ district on what these guys' perks add up to. Most of them are wealthy enough that they don't even NEED the perks. Being privy to all the insider information is perk enough. If you can't enrich yourself with that, you lack a hell of a lot of imagination. Most do pretty well, though (e.g. Tommy Thompson).
Brian Dey September 23, 2012 at 04:22 pm
Dave Koven- I agree. But it is no different in education. In RUSD, for example. the school board and the administration found away to get over $13 million to buy and remodel a new Administrative Service Center. Nice building, but what does that do for the classrooms?
Again with RUSD, I excessive waste with the number of administrators the district has. Area Superintendents? At a cost of almost a half million dollars, I need to see some justification for those positions, and the results educationally before I think that is not waste. Every department has a department head, high schools have three or more principal positions, and the list goes on and on. Someone needs to tell me why we have well over two hundred administrators for 20,000 students when Milwaukee has half with 98,000 students. Both I might add have similar results academically. But the same can be said about some of the perks for teachers as well. Lifetime pensions when retiring at age 55? Unheard of in the private sector. Bump that up to 30 yrs service at age 60 (still better than the private sector) and billions could be poured into classrooms nationwide. You see, most that want to reform the financing of education have been hamstrung by these perks for decades. The answer every year was to raise taxes. And the taxpayers are saying enough is enough. It's not that you don't have enough money, it is how it is spent that is what people are objecting to.
Steve ® September 23, 2012 at 09:48 pm
Whine whine whine.
They love socialist liberals in Illinois, especially in Chicago. Instead of blaming yourself as a liberal, you continue to play class warfare and ask for more redistribution. Liberals are 100% responsible for this, but keep crying about rich people and we need more socialism and stuff http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-illinois-debt-clock.html
Steve ® September 23, 2012 at 09:52 pm
It does in lefty land. They will continue to steal from the producers until they all fall off the cliff. As they are falling they will continue to blame the producers for making the cliff.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-illinois-debt-clock.html
Dave Koven September 25, 2012 at 06:30 pm
Brian Dey...The answer is to get professional school boards. They have to know what they are doing because they hire and fire the educational leadership of the district. They also decide what the curriculum is going to be and how they want it taught. People who have full- time non- educational jobs and donate a few hours of their time to run the schools is not a good idea. Just because you run a business or are the local lawyer, doesn't mean you know what is needed in education. They know what they want, but not necessarily what is educationally possible. We need people who are knowledgeable about the cutting edge of educational research. We need people experienced in education, and can look beyond local politics to what kids actually need. Retired teachers would be perfect. School board members usually only receive a token salary any way, so no big cost there, but the community would get the full benefit of their teacher's degrees and experience. They could bring about the necessary changes and not have to fear for their livelihood. Since they are retired, I'm sure they would be very tight with a tax dollar and would appreciate being useful. However, people have to get realistic and realize that what is needed is what is needed, no matter how much we wish it wasn't.
Brian Dey September 25, 2012 at 07:02 pm
Dave Koven- That is so not the answer. It is public funds and needs to remain the citizens elected board. Right now, there are two retired teachers on the board and someone who was a national leader in Montessori education. Under the RUSD, they rely on the Superintendent, who is the educational expert.
It is the board's role for holding accountable the experts, i.e. Superintendent, Chief Financial Officer. If you think it is something else, you oblviously haven't followed the board for the past 6 years. They don't need to know the latest craze in education; they need to monitor the results of those that they put in charge, and hold them accountable. What is needed is better monitoring by the boards, and actually acknowledging problems exist and to challenge the professionals on why they are not working. And ultimately, if they don't improve, holding them accountable. In turn, the Supt. and CFO need to hold those that work for them accountable for their results. Believe it or not, it doesn't take a degree in education or anything else to use common sense and analyze data.
Dave Koven September 25, 2012 at 08:13 pm
Brian Day...Then, why aren't things better in education than they are now? "Common sense ain't so common." The board still has to know what the "cutting edge" of educational developments are. The uninformed can hold the informed hostage just because they have the power. Superintendents come and go. They last, on average, about 4-6 years before they have"offended" enough to make it political to move on with their old ideas. I'm sure there's enough retired teachers in many districts that live where they taught. Their decisions would take into account the specific needs of the community that they too are a part of.
Brian Dey September 25, 2012 at 08:33 pm
Dave Kovan- Who knows the community needs better than their peers. They are the community. Stacking the deck with leaders who need to make unbias decisions has failed our district. And the community, who is always squacking, keep re-electing them. And as far as I know and have seen, the cutting edge keeps leading to more and more failure. If you want real reform, stop passing kids that are not reading to move to the next grade. Social promotion in RUSD has been going on for years, with everyone's blessing. It hasn't worked and never will work. Education isn't a laboratory for cutting edge. Speaking with many educators, they say that there are only so many ways to teach a child, but it all gts back to the basics. We have so many course offerings, yet we have a high percentage that can't read, write or do math to grade level. It is common sense. A common sense that sometimes gets lost in the world of academia.
Chip Keister October 13, 2012 at 03:01 am
Any teachers who are young enough should QUIT, and join the armed forces. That is where the FUTURE is in this country. Any who are NOT young enough should QUIT and become venture capitalists. That is the way to go, really. Then, when all the pubic, oops, I mean public school teachers quit, we can privatize the entire education system. That will, of course, yield better results.

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Rees Roberts June 6, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Rees Roberts June 6, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Mike Devine June 11, 2013 at 08:52 am
Rees; When the Sacred village Board cloaked the building of a new Village hall for over $17 million,Read More it was brought to there attention to build TWO new fire stations. One south, one north. Instead they built the Taj Mahal and a distance fire station. Maybe the two remaining Trustees could orate their decision for the residents.
Chris Larsen June 7, 2013 at 09:40 am
Typical John. Long on vitriol and talking points but no ideas of his own. And what have you done forRead More your district this term John? Have you met with the Boards in the Villages and Towns you represent? Listening sessions in Mt Pleasant or Sturtevant? Que the crickets.......
C. Sanders June 13, 2013 at 12:07 am
John Lehman ... Long on wind and short on accomplishment. another politician on auto-pilot until theRead More next election.
Walker celebrates after defeating the liberal unionista blue fisters
Steven W. Smith June 8, 2013 at 07:40 am
Hmm "make a stronger Wisconsin than ever". Yup Scottie, 44th in the country is the beat!Read More Soon 50th? Inverted math? "The recall brought us closer together" You won spending 6-1 using a majority of out of state $, had 5 times longer to campaign and won because one side failed to confront the second battle of recalls as a whole vs Scotties recall. "For decades we will be able to look up public officials and hopefuls, teachers, neighbors, interviewees" so much for freedom of speech & the recall Scott Walker used to become Milwaukee's head of busted political officials. Scott you were hired to represent all citizens of Wisconsin.
skinnyDUDE May 29, 2013 at 11:13 pm
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Heather Asiyanbi (Editor) May 30, 2013 at 10:33 am
skinnyDUDE - we like it, too ... just wait until the app comes available. It's so cool!
YankeeVictor June 5, 2013 at 10:18 pm
"Team of geniuses"? Your joking of course. My email box is blown off the planet by youRead More guys. What gives? For a couple of months I really thought this was the place to come to find out what was going on. You were giving the JT a real run for the money. Not any more. Maybe it's just me, and if so, I apologize, but there are better places to waste time then the Patch.