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Supporting Budget Repair Bill (Act 10) is Reason for Wanggaard Recall

Randy Brandt spells out his reason for filing the recall papers while State Sen. Van Wanggaard outlines how he helped protect workers.

 

Racine County Democrats may have many reasons for wanting to recall State Sen. Van Wanggaard, but Randy Brandt has only one.

"When you spend your career benefitting from the very system you're working to dismantle, that is hypocrisy at a level that cannot be allowed to stand," Brandt told Patch during a phone interview on Nov. 29. He is the treasurer for the Committee to Recall Wanggaard.

Brandt was referring to Wanggaard's years in law enforcement, both as a uniformed officer and a union representative.

"Van Wanggaard has been a traitorous supporter of Governor Walker's assault on workers, especially public employees, when he continues to benefit from retirement plans he helped negotiate," Brandt continued.

But Wanggaard said his refusal to sign the Budget Repair Bill without certain protections for workers helped cover a lot of the issues collective bargaining would normally have included.

"By making sure we had language that preserved the grievance process, disciplinary steps, worker safety and protection from unfair termination," he said. "It's about protecting the worker and we did that by keeping these measures intact."

Further, Wanggaard said it was imperative to balance the budget and solve the state's structural deficit for good and without raising taxes.

"The last administration had $50 million in account juggling, which cut funding from schools and transferred that burden to the taxpayer because there wasn't any levy protection," he continued. "We wanted to balance the budget in two years if possible, but we figured out how to do it in the first year, fully eliminating the structural deficit and not raising taxes."

Wanggaard does admit that he would have included protective services in the Budget Repair Bill.

"I think it's reasonable to expect everyone to give equally," he stated.

As for who could run against Wanggaard in the event of a recall election, Brandt said that decision is for the future, though Representative Cory Mason (D-Racine) has said he might consider taking up the challenge.

"I am confident we'll get the required signatures and beyond," he said. "It's important to first achieve the recall and then choose the best candidate for the election."

Related Topics: Committee to Recall Wanggaard, Cory Mason, Governor Scott Walker, Van Wanggaard, and Wisconsin Recall

James R Hoffa

10:36 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011

How exactly is/was it hypocrisy when Van was forced to be a member of the union when he worked for the police force? I could see calling Van a hypocrite if he had been given a choice to join the union when accepting employment with the police force and actually chose to become a full fledged member, but that is just not the case here. So let’s get real, shall we?

Additionally, Van’s priorities are different now, as are the expectations upon him. When he was a member of the police force, he worked for the executive branch of government and enforced the laws, however, as a state senator, he now works for the legislative branch of government and enacts the laws – a very big difference. And via his admission that he would have included police and fire employees within the scope of the BRB, Van has proven that he understands such difference and has prioritized appropriately without any predisposed bias merely because of his previously held positions.

This is something that is highly commendable for a politician to do, and quite frankly, I wish we had more like Van! And he’s also a politician that stands firm in his convictions and apparently knows how to lead others in getting the best results possible under the circumstances.

Recall the REAL hypocrite Cory Mason and leave Van Wanggaard alone!

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Tbone

12:21 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

He was actually a union rep. He was active and a union leader.

Gee, maybe he was forced to be the union rep? I bet he wasn't given the choice to whether he wanted to be part of the leadership/negotiating team of his union.

Grow a brain.

He is a hypocrite just like all republicans.

Herman Cain preaching on Sunday while harassing women and carrying on a 13 year affair.

Newt Gingrich is nailing Clintons but to the wall for having a girl on the said WHILE HE IS CHEATING ON HIS OWN WIFE WHO HAPPENS TO BE ON HER DEATH BED!

Mit Romney is up on stage railing against "Obamacare" when Romneycare was the template used for the affordable healthcare act.

So sorry, but if you are trying to say that every single republican isn't a hypocrite you should give it up.

There are some arguments you can make, but republicans and hypocrites are one and the same. Synonyms really.

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James R Hoffa

11:49 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

@Tbone -

Once being forced into the union, why not make the best of it? And that's exactly what Van did! He's a real go-getter and always tries to make the best out of the situation he's dealt. What's so wrong and hypocritical with that? Not to mention GREAT qualities for an elected representative to have!

And you must have missed the part about how Van's wearing different pants now and has different priorities, obligations, and expectations placed upon him by the very virtue of his new position and shift among core fundamental governmental branches. But I guess you conveniently ignored that part of my comment in your 'critique' of such.

BTW - Nice use of the liberal tactic of changing the subject and making unfounded comparisons / correlations based on absolutely nothing objective. Did you learn this from the Daily Kos?

PLEASE!

Perhaps you should actually try using your brain as opposed to blindly following the public sector union philosophy like a sheep. You do realize that not even the real JRH or FDR supported public sector unionization, don't you?

Try again Tbone, cause you just got Hoffa'd!

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Morninmist Same

9:56 am on Monday, December 5, 2011

Spot on!

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Scott

4:36 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Calling him a hypocrite is being kind.

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Brian Dey

6:40 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Tbone & Scott- Perhaps it's not hypocrisy, perhaps it is actually seeing that the unions with their lavish benefits and extravagant, hugely generous pensions, were the reason this state was going broke, and seeing as that we were already in the top twenty of state taxes, thouught it was time to rectify the error of his ways! And dare I say, Mason is the biggest suck up to the unions because he is not a good enough lawyer to earn a living so he panders your vote and you are rewarded by hi loyalty. In the real world we call that carpetbagging, racketeering and bribery. Oh yes, those are the honorable traits of the Democratic party.

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enicar333

7:20 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Van is a good man and is doing the right thing for Wisconsin. The stranglehold by public unions on Wisconsin's finances needs to be broken. Public employees are overpaid, overcompensated, and retire too early, it is NOT sustainable. Getting costs under control is priority number one, so that the tax base of private business may be rebuilt.

Van is not a hypocrite - he has direct experience from being a member of the public employee unions. He knows how they operate and abuse their privileges and political power. What Van is concerned with is building a healthy Wisconsin - the old paradigm is unsustainable. Sour grapes by the public employees was an unintended unfortunate consequence - Perhaps there was a belief that the public employees, after witnessing their neighbors losing their jobs, businesses closing down, and costs being shifted to employees in private enterprise, that there would be some understanding and empathy. Instead we witnessed that the greed and avarice of the public employees knows no end.

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CowDung

8:47 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

It still amazes me that anyone can justify recalling a guy over a single vote cast in the legislature...

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James R Hoffa

11:51 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

And clearly, that's all these recalls are really about - regardless of what some on the left may claim!

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Nudy Newton

12:00 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Republicans love to castigate others for being unpatriotic, yet far fewer Republicans in Congress have served in the military than Democrats. Elected Republican officials love to carp about family values, yet they are at least on par with Democrats when it comes to adultery, gay, rough and group sex, and pursuing under-age boys in the men's room.

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James R Hoffa

1:38 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011

@Nudy Newton -

What does any of that have to do with the Wanggaard recall effort?

You are nothing but a partisan hack - go back to the Daily Kos where they appreciate people like you!

Patriot

10:21 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

@Cow-You and I both brother. What happened to democrocy? I thought that is why we hold elections? If one side or the other does not like something they try again during the next election cycle. I thought it was about the people not a small group of legislators who disagree? If Im not mistaking it was the people who spoke during the last election. Its really sad what we have become!!!! Spoon fed brainwashed union supporters who think there unions really care!!!! Give me a break all they care about is loosing their union dues and the possibility of this State becoming a right to work state period!!!

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Tom

10:33 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Sadly, the taxpayer is witnessing the death spiral of public sector unions who do not intend to give up 1 cent of what they have monopolized for many decades. Great pay, lifetime employment with very little accountability, pensions that would make God blush and a young retirement age that permits a second career while double-dipping a hefty pension. It has to come to an end.

GearHead

10:53 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Brandt is insincere. Since when did he care about the plight of the union worker? Where was he for the last 30 years as the union-owned health insurance company (WEAC Trust) fleeced the taxpayers by charging double market rates? Oh, yeah, it was "bargained." Accumulated sick days? Stacking overtime? Ridiculous work rules? Free pensions? Was anything out-of-bounds, Randy? Apparently not if it was "bargained." Just because it was bargained, doesn't make it right.

And how did we bargain, anyway? With a gun to our heads, basically! And who represented the taxpayer at the table? NOBODY! Act 10 finally gives the taxpayer a seat at the table. It is disengenuous for Mr. Brandt to cry foul now, when he ran the newspaper with the biggest megaphone in town. Where was his voice during decades of colossal screwing, fraud and abuse?

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CowDung

11:09 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

That 'bargaining' is the issue I have with the public unions. In private unions, there is a definite adversarial relationship between the parties at the bargaining table. The deals that are made tend to be fair to all parties involved. With public unions, that adversarial relationship doesn't necessarily exist. The elected official at the bargaining table might have been elected with the help of political contributions from the union on the other side of the bargaining table. When stuff like that happens, the potential for abuse of bargaining power goes way up.

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Heather Asiyanbi

8:01 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Just to be clear, though, RUSD has not participated in WEAC Trust since the early 1990s, I think.

Randolph Brandt

7:07 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Teachers' unions were long limited in Wisconsin from negotiating anything - money or benefits - beyond the relatively modest QEO, or Qualified Economic Offer, set beforehand by the Legislature at little more than 3 percent. Also, unlike all other unions, public employees were not permitted to use the most powerful weapon of labor unions - the stike. It's really silly to suggest that public employee unions came to the negotiating table from a position of overwhelming strength that couldn't be resisted. In reality, their bargaining position was always rather weak.

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James R Hoffa

11:57 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

They can't strike, and yet they stage a coordinated 'sick-out,' premised upon clearly FRAUDULENT grounds to effectively close many schools.

And then they rush through CBA’s WITHOUT the compensation cuts they orally agreed to give Walker in the past.

Hmmm.... looks like these teachers’ unions are deceitful back-stabbers, don’t like playing by the rules, and have no problems with committing fraud so long as it serves their purposes – but it was all really about the children, honestly!

Walker can’t show these clowns the door fast enough! Good riddance!!!

Randolph Brandt

7:19 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

It's also ridiculous to claim that "the taxpayer" wasn't represented at the bargaining table. Taxpayers - the voters - elected the very people who sat across the table from the union negotiators, so, of course, the taxpayer was represented - by the people they freely elected in election after election. To say otherwise is disingenuous.

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James R Hoffa

12:06 am on Thursday, December 1, 2011

@Randolph Brandt -

Often, the elected school board members were juiced-in union sympathizers that had no problem with raising the property tax levy/millage. But I don’t recall having ever seen a school board member run their campaign on being a pro-union stooge, have you? So, I guess that means that we should start recalling all the union stooge school board members!

Not to mention that you forgot about the inherent ideological/philosophical conflict of interest regarding public sector unionization - the union members are also taxpayers, so in essence, they're bargaining against themselves! Not to mention that the union membership are also voters, just like every other taxpayer, and are already represented by their duly elected representatives.

Nice try, but you just got Hoffa’d!

Try again.

Randolph Brandt

7:25 pm on Wednesday, November 30, 2011

It's also useful to note from this article that Sen. Wanggaard plans to strip police and firefighters of their collective bargaining rights as well.

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James R Hoffa

12:08 am on Thursday, December 1, 2011

@Randolph Brandt -

Consistency and avoiding playing favorites / bowing down to only certain/select special interest - again, great qualities for a political leader/representative to have!

Van is the man with the plan!

Randolph Brandt

1:10 am on Friday, December 2, 2011

I'm sure all his friends and former co-workers appreciate the fact that now that he's safely got his, he's willing to deny them the same. I don't even care which side you're on, that's low in anybody's book.

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James R Hoffa

2:57 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011

@Randolph Brandt -

What exactly is Wanggaard denying to his friends and former co-workers? Your statement makes no sense.

Randolph Brandt

1:21 am on Friday, December 2, 2011

... not to mention his double-dip salary and double-dip pension as a state Senator. Funny how he's called for sacrifice from everybody - except himself!

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James R Hoffa

3:08 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011

@Randolph Brandt -

When exactly did Wanggaard call "for sacrifice from everybody," as such is not stated anywhere in the above article. And what "double-dip salary" are you talking about?

The pensions are as provided for by current law and could significantly change before he becomes eligible to collect his state senate pension. Wanggaard himself has publicly stated as being against inequitable double-dipping on the taxpayers' dime.

Give it up already – you are nothing more than a Daily Kos partisan hack!

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